Talk:Treet TV Island Development

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New "Wikitecture" Project Page

Where this "Development" page serves as a mission statement, there may be a need to provide specific information about the project itself, as well: What is the tree? How do I collaborate in the group? What is happening so far? Where do I go for help?
A new Wikitecture page (link) has been created for this purpose. Several sections are suggested for content; others are likely to be needed. Once the page starts to develop, the green text at the top can be moved into the "Discussion" for that page. Azwaldo 14:46, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Intended Audiences

• Bounced some of the "Project Statement Draft" comment (below) into the opening.
• Moved the last "Background" statement into the first paragraph, as the opening.
• Moved the "Background" section up

Where "Project Statement Draft" (below) refers to a separate document, one that "we will announce at the project's Kick-Off"), that is a different audience than the first visitors to this page. I have edited this page assuming that it will serve as a resource for the Treet TV community, initially.

I hesitated before moving the "Goals" section; the very first "Goal" statement was such a strong opener (given the audience). However, it seemed to be a good transition from the (new) introduction into "Goals". Hopefully, highlighting that first "Goal" with bold styling provides adequate emphasis.

Azwaldo 09:50, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

The new page layout looks very good and the important info catches the eye. Keeping the primary goal in bold is nice.

Wiznord 04:34, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Project Statement Draft

Studio Wikitecture will work together with Treet TV's producers, project stakeholders, and viewers to develop a 'Master Plan' for Treet TV's 4 sims. The Master Plan will be developed at miniature scale - where each sim is represented by a 10 meter by 10 meter square. The Studio Wikitecture and Treet TV communities will be able to create or modify design proposals for the Treet TV Master Plan, then upload them to the 'Wiki Tree' where others can view, vote on, or take the idea and refine it further.

The Wiki-Tree will be located at the following: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Tropical%20Treet/114/114/25

We will be hosting an introductory meeting with Treet TV's producers and project stakeholders to describe how the Wiki Tree works, but a general tutorial can be found here: (http://studiowikitecture.wikidot.com/how-to)

Treet TV producers and project stakeholders should use this Wiki to share any specific requirements they want designers to be mindful of when creating design proposals for the Master Plan. The contents of this Wiki page will then be made into a 'Project Statement' that we will announce at the project's Kick-Off, sometime in the third or fourth week in July. ("Keystone 19:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)")

Project Timeline

Intro Session 1: Thursday, July 16th, 2pm

Intro Session 2: Last week of July? - (we propose this be a review session, and a Q&A for Treet admin, producers and project stakeholders. Ryan (Theory) and Jon (Keystone) suggest that we not open the wiki tree for contributions until after the community-wide project kick-off.

Project Kick-Off - open the Wiki Tree

Phase 1: date? - we ask everyone to cast their votes, at which point we pick the top 3 most popular designs to continue working with and improving. From here, the idea is to fold together the best ideas into a single design.

Phase 2: date? we ask everyone to cast their votes, at which point we - again - pick the top 3 most popular designs to continue working with.

Phase 3: date? one final round of votes cast. We take the most popular design at this point, then start polishing and finalizing it.

Completion: Two Months out?

("Keystone 00:22, 16 July 2009 (UTC)")

Form of the Master Plan draft maps

How many regions are in the Treet Archipelago? Is there an advantage in having the prims be 10 meters square? Would flat mega prims work? Perhaps a scale map of the regions could be made, indicating clearly what areas are available for development. That image could be applied to a flattened prim and used as the First Leaf of the tree. In that way, all parties would be working from the same original outline. Azwaldo 17:29, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I think its a great idea to creating the scale map being the first leaf of the tree. Perhaps a very simple miniature of each studio or important build could be included as well - since the design of the studios themselves won't be changing. Flat megas could certainly work, and I suppose it could start at any scale. My thinking with the 10x10 meter region size is only to keep it to a manageable scale for newer or less experienced users/builder to work with, and also perhaps more manageable when submitting and retrieving from the Wiki Tree. It might also help us concentrate on getting the broad strokes of the design right at a smaller scale before getting more detailed and specific at a larger scale. ("Keystone 19:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC)")

Discussing ideas, presenting a document

There is a basic wiki practice that would be useful for this page (and others in the Treet.TV wiki, probably). Here is an excerpt from MediaWiki's description of one principle that is instrumental at Wikipedia:

"...each page and each namespace has an associated "Talk:" page which can be used to discuss its contents, such as "User talk:" or "Template talk:". The purpose of having discussion pages is to allow content to be separated from discussion surrounding the content."

As an example, I have a several questions about the most recent edits for this page.

• If I simply edit the page to change the text, and the next visitor changes it to yet another idea, we are not collaborating.
• If it was only the author and myself working on the article, I could contact the author off-wiki; but, the next visitor might have the same question about the same content...the "Talk" page provides background.
• If I ask about the issue in-world, or send an email or IM to the author, then I keep the other contributors out of "the loop". (Yes, I could "cc" the other contributors with such an email; but, what if someone arrives at the page without having seen those emails?)

The "Talk" page provides a form of "backchat."
"Talk" pages for any wiki article are accessed via the "Discussion" tab at the top of every article.
Including four tilde characters ("~~~~") at the end of a post places your username and a timestamp, as seen on the next line. An easy way to "sign" a comment in the "Talk" page.
Azwaldo 17:29, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Some feedback from Wiz

Here are some notes based upon what I've read so far:

How many regions are in the Treet Archipelago?

All four regions, Tropical Treet, Northpoint, Burbank Place, and Otway should be considered. I think it is good to be idealistic at first, then consider what constraints there are. While Otway currently has the Dirtfield track, the builders of that area are very receptive to change at the ground level. Northpoint has hubs of activity already that I believe should be preserved, but most of the island could be revamped entirely. Burbank can be rearranged entirely and occupants there are there "by chance". Trying to move toward a cohesive, malleable plan which will evolve over time should consider all four areas.

Is there an advantage in having the prims be 10 meters square? Would flat mega prims work?

Personal opinion - I like 10x10. They are big enough to use as region maps but not so large that several instances of a map could be arranged side-by-side for comparison.

Perhaps a scale map of the regions could be made, indicating clearly what areas are available for development.

Yes, this is a very good starting point! There are very few sacred areas, but it will be good to get those highlighted in red before we proceed as those are the most significant constraints.

Talk pages as forums for discusssion...

Azwaldo, I agree entirely with using the "Talk" pages as you describe. I tend to also check the "Recent Changes" link as the first activity when visiting the wiki, so I know what is happening and where.

There has also been some comment about setting aside time each week for meetings. I would suggest a 2 hour time period in the evening on Wednesday, perhaps 4PM-6PM SLT? This is not really euro-friendly though. It's difficult to accomodate Europe, Australia and the USA with a common time. Ideas?

Wiznord 01:06, 15 July 2009 (UTC)